11.21.2005

Nitwit Question of the day..and it's still early

What are your snarky thoughts on unpublished authors with web sites? Necessity or nonsense?

Cause there should be quality control for website posting? Good luck with that idea Inspector 11.

If someone puts his/her work on the web, so what?
The only time I'm involved is if you send me an email with a link and invite me to read it.
Default answer: thanks, no.
I have enough to read.
Nitwit questions for starters.

11 comments:

AzGhostWriter said...

Well I can say you're absolutely right. It sure does take a real nitwit to even suggest someone with your busy schedule read his or her web material. I bet some people are just aghast at the idea that you wouldn't take the time to visit their site.

What gall for some people to believe they have anything of value on their web.

I say we hang those people!

AzGhostWriter said...

Miss Snark,

I must apologize because I misread your post. I agree that quality control is important, very much so.

But is the packaging more important than the contents? Would you toss a manuscript because it was wrapped poorly?

Brady Westwater said...

I'll also broach this question - but with a few caveats. First, the site is of a profesional quality. Second, the first thing any agent does when they have an interest in a writer is hit GOOGLE. Third, the site makes it clear that it has just gone up and that one of these projects has just been finished and the others are in progress, so any agent - or publisher - would know these are not long 'shopped' around projects.

Under those circumstances, would it hurt (or help) to post the first chapter of two different novels and some essays from a non-fiction book at the same time one first submits the first novel, realizing any agent interested will be likely to 'discover' the site on their own?

I say this because I agree it is better to stick with one query for one project, to not refer an agent to a website and to not clutter the first communication with additional projects or too much collateral information.

So my question is, finally, if an agent can see there are a number of future projects and that the writer is capable of self-promotion, might this not make it more likley to get a request for a partial, especially if the agent is on the fence over this particular writer?

Lastly, if one writes on subjects that will make it likely the website will be both linked to and commented upon by other websites and on blogs that agents, publishers and writers who have agents and publishers are likely to read - might this not also be a good thing?

I know at least in Hollywood, agents and producers subconsciously seem to have more inital interest in a property (yeah,I know, one of those 'film' words I need to stop using) they 'discover' than those that are sent to them unsolicited over the transom.

Dave Kuzminski said...

The image that hits my mind when someone emails me with the request that I visit their website to view what they have to offer is that they didn't research properly for publishing houses and agents, especially since I'm not an agent. I'm not a book publisher, either. Yes, I've actually received a number of requests wanting me to either publish their book or represent them. So, I have to weigh in that asking anyone to visit a website to select material is not a good idea and marks one as an amateur.

AzGhostWriter said...

Well I am the NitWit she's referring to in her message, so I'll take the heat. I never asked her to read my complete web or comment on the quality or other contents. I just thought Miss Snark would enjoy a good laugh and mentioned reading about the lawyer bit I had posted.

When I woke up and read her post, I wasn't upset or mad. I realized it was a stupid mistake and got what I deserved (sort of). But she also made me realize that my header and content needed work and I made those corrections. Her comments also made me realize that sometimes agents will look at form over substance and make their decisions about the quality from a quick glance at the cover.

Bottom line is Miss Snark did me a favor by bringing my web deficiencies to light. At least I hope she had a good laugh, I know I did.

(Hey, at least she didn't say my writing sucked!)

Sal said...

Dave Kuzminski sed: The image that hits my mind when someone emails me with the request that I visit their website to view what they have to offer is that they didn't research properly for publishing houses and agents, especially since I'm not an agent. I'm not a book publisher, either.

You're neither an agent nor a publisher, Dave, but what you provide at Preditors and Editors is one of the more useful sites for writers anxious about whether a given editor or publisher is on the up and up. Thanks for all the work you do providing the information on the site. I've sent people off in that direction countless times.

Thanks.

AzGhostWriter said...

Dang, Sal, I went and visited your site and was blinded by obscured internet wobbles. Gee...I get yanked by snark and your site is so lame.

Excuse me! Frick the gin, I’m going for a double vodka!

Sal said...

Maybe this one will be more useful to you.

Truth to tell, I haven't really touched my site for a long while. I blather on in a blog and that's about it Web-wise these days. If I ever decide to use the site as a marketing tool, I'll spiff it up. Thanks for the critique.

AzGhostWriter said...

Hey Sal, no problem, but I think you are pointing to tools more useful to other folks.

Hope your site improves the writing.

LJCohen said...

I'm a published poet and an unpublished novellest. I have both a website and a blog. The website is exclusively for poetry and exists as part of a larger community of poets on the web.

Writing poetry is purely a labor of love. There is little to no market for it and even if it gets published in reputable journals (online as well as print) payment is likely to be in subscriptions rather than money. (A poet friend of mine maintains that poets are the most uncorruptible of artists because of that!) I maintain that website as a way to connect with other poets.

I maintain the blog as a chronicle of my writing process. In part, I hope that if any potential agent looked at my blog, he or she would see someone who is serious about her writing process.

I think this is a different 'animal' than a website for publicity and self-promotion.

Any thoughts, Miss Snark?

Best regards,
ljcohen

Brady Westwater said...

I also addressed this possibility in an earlier comment about this post, plus Miss Snark also - somewhat - addressed this in her, there are exceptions to every rule post.

Providentially -- I received the below email today:

Read your blog on Nicolai O's review of Getty. Good stuff. Interested in what else you have written. Do you have a list you can email me?

It was then signed by the head of the most prestigious publisher of books on urban planning. So... there are exceptions to every rule.

PS -- To my surprise, the post he responded to was just a touch on the... snarky side.