3.02.2006

Miss Snark Contemplates moving across the park

It has come to my attention that WordPress also offers blogging, and the site is searchable, a big plus considering Miss Snark's depth of commentary.

Here's the proposed new site

I'm just soliciting opinions right now.
What do you think?



PS ONE benefit is it's easier to post links correctly!!

78 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wordpress is such a pretty term, much more refined than "blogger" which to moi has always connoted certain bodily excretions associated with the nasal cavity.

~Anoni Moose

Termagant2 said...

This humble servant tried, but lo! The link failed to obey in my browser.

T2

SAND STORM said...

http:///misssnark.wordpress.com/

You need to fix your link (one to many / before misssnark) of all the blogs I read half seem to be Blogger the other half wordpress or typepad just a personal preference I guess.

Elektra said...

Methinks that whatever makes Miss Snark's life easier is fine by me

Edie said...

My group blog uses WordPress. The techie in our group investigated the different blog hosts and thought it was the best. Although she explained why, I don't remember a word. I'll tell her to comment.

Anonymous said...

No! Blogging and flogging rhyme. What rhymes with wordpress? Impress? Depress? Bleh.

But yanno, it's your kingdom and I'm your humble servent.

BulletBill said...

Being a protosnarkling (I have only 60K words left to go!) I humbly suggest that answer lies in the bottom of the gin pail. Drink until you can see the bottom, and your answer will appear to you.

Kate said...

I vote wordpress; you can categorize your posts as you go. For some reason, Blogger has no categorizing ability. (Of course, I say so as one who uses Blogger, but it's sheer laziness and miserliness.)

Anonymous said...

I love the search capability! It makes my eyes bug out trying to find something as is. I vote for Wordpress.

Anonymous said...

Question: Are you able to move (or copy) your existing content from here to there?

Renee Luke said...

I use wordpress for my site and blog. I love it. It's super easy and has more options than blogger. You go, and I'll follow. Stopping by during the day to read all the snarkiness really breaks up my writing day in an enjoyable way.

Sha'el, Princess of Pixies said...

can you move the entire contents of this blog to the new site?

Are their spamming issues with the new site?

Must Love Goblins said...

For less than $100 a year (that could be recouped with a little advertising), you could buy a domain name and install Wordpress (which is free) on your own web host. Then you could be misssnark.com or whatever. Just a thought.

M. G. Tarquini said...

Ask for help on the programming from your adoring Snarklings, Miss Snark. Lots of people love Word Press. I think I would, also, if I could figure out how to work it. But I say whatever makes Miss Snark's life easier. At least in the blogging sphere. I'd send her cabana boys, if I had any idea where to ship them.

Jean said...

I've been using WordPress for a year now and love it.

In addition to categories, which you can create on the fly in the current verion, you have additional pages you can use, so you could, were you so inclined, create a page for the FAQ, another for bios, or, really, anything you like.

(I strongly suggest using the spam filter they put into the current version or installing SpamKarma2--a simply wonderful plug-in.)

Michelle said...

Word Press is fantastic. I absolutely love it. You can choose from a number of template designs too, as well as have a devoted Snarkling design one for you. Perhaps Killer Yap can have his photo as part of it.

Ballpoint Wren said...

The default theme isn't spiffy enough. Miss Snark needs a kickass theme!

WordPress.com used to be able to import Blogger posts and comments but it doesn't look as if they're offering that feature now.

That feature is available to those using WordPress on their own sites (with their own webhosts). You could import everything much more easily on your own site. The hard part would be categorizing all the posts.

Another plus with hosting your own site: you could fiddle with templates all you want, and have a wider variety of templates from which to choose. See here and here.

Anonymous said...

WordPress is a respected blogging tool that been through enough iterations to be quite stable. It's open source and has smart developers. I see no reason not to switch, other than the loss of significant history with the blogspot link. (Technorati returns over 20,000 links to Miss Snark) Keep this blog, and set up a referrer to the new wordpress site.
Carolyn J

Pamela said...

I've been using Wordpress on my website blog since October and I'm very happy with it. My webdesigner made it match the rest of the site. I never noticed that it had a search feature, but now that you mention it, there it is. :)

Anonymous said...

I think you should come over to LiveJournal. The comments organization is much nicer and you can organize by subject too.

Anonymous said...

No - don't change anything!

Anonymous said...

Blogger is also searchable. Up at the very top is a search bar.

WordPress is pretty nifty, though.

---
bleh

Anonymous said...

Avoiding the urge to make comments about Miss Snark being near the park soliciting, I took a quick trip over to wordpress and it looks OK. I would have the same concern as everybody around the fate of the Snarkives.
I could post comments quicker on Wordpress than I can on blogger - don't have to decipher the twisty words...
I would miss Blogger's preview function though.
-ril

Anonymous said...

Here's what I left at Wordpress:

I’m all for any site that’s search able through key words and blog titles. Would you be able to move the archive over and would wordpress assist? If so, it could take a huge burden off of Miss Adventure.

Based on the comments here, it appears you should go for it.

Anonymous said...

Does Wordpress allow favicons? Then, you could convert a photo of Killer Yap into a favicon.

[Favicons are those neat little symbols you get from some sites instead of the boring 'e' for Internet explorer, for instance.]

Shelly said...

I mostly have Blogger blogs and one on LiveJournal. I try a lot of blogging sites to test them out. I tried WordPress.com which is basically a watered down WordPress service. It's nice, but not very customizable if you're using the free WordPress.com service.

I also had problems with it. Some of the features, including editing pages, weren't working in Firefox, but worked fine in AOL of all places and in IE, neither of which I use anymore.

I created a page for photos of my workspace and the photos kept disappearing. I finally gave up and deleted the page.

It might work just fine for you. I prefer Blogger.

Simon Haynes said...

I prefer blogger to wordpress, but as long as it's not LJ I'm happy.

Susan said...

Whatever is good with me, I'd just hope you keep this site up so that we still have access to the archives (a TREASURE TROVE), or bring the archives along with.

McKoala said...

I don't mind where you are as long as I can find you (and that's not supposed to sound sinister). But I would be sad to lose the Snarkives.

Miss P AKA Her Royal Cliqueness said...

I don't have any experience with Wordpress, but like the whole category idea.

Now you won't have to answer and re-answer the same questions twice...one hundred times.

Carmen said...

The other blog is a bit too sparse for my taste, but I would assume there are other designs and such. I'd rather read your blog here than there simply because this looks nicer. But I'd read it wherever you put it, so do whatever works best for you.

Mark said...

Is it free? I search my blog with the technorati link.

Kendall Bullen said...

Your current blog is already searchable. Categories are for some, but don't help me: I read all new entries, and search the older ones. Categories are only as good as the categorizer & his/her time, and with tangents & comment thread divergence...I'm skeptical that would replace searching for me.

As a newly-devoted reader, the biggest thing seems to be whether you can move the content. (I suggest double-checking with Wordpress.) If you can't move the content, then there's nothing to search anyway, and your blog loses some utility in one fell swoop.

Anonymous said...

I too use the Technorati for searching on my blog. You just install the code into your template along the margin.

Leva said...

Interesting synchronicity here. I'm currently installing another wordpress blog on my site -- I was browsing while the theme uploaded.

For what it's worth, the wordpress application is ridiculously easy to install on a site. And it's free from wordpress.org. If you had your own domain, you could put a wordpress blog on it that you'd own entirely and have full control over.

Leva

Anonymous said...

must love goblins, I bought a domain name for $8 for a year at Namesecure, which I can route to my web space. My ISP provider also gives me a web page for every email account I activate (up to seven). At that price, I can afford not to recoup my costs. I think I'm going to check out Wordpress for myself for when I'm ready to have a blog.

Anonymous said...

Since Blogger is ALSO searchable, I don't see the point if that's your main reason for switching. Plus you may lose a lot of link popularity. The archives question is a big one, too. Having your new blogs on one site and your old ones on another is not an ideal situation. That's my 2 cents.

Mallika said...

I've always loved Wordpress, so of course I'm cheering for the move.

Lady M said...

I'm 50/50 on the whole thing. It is your site, and your decision.

However, I have three points I would like to make:

1. Blogger is searchable. On the top navigation bar - there are 2 ways to search: "This Blog" and "All Blogs".

2. You have been linked to by numerous sites, which gives you a higher ranking in search engines that use linking as a way to move up in the ranks. You would temporarily lose those ranks, and your old links would still be visible until they were changed. Also you would have to change it all.

3. Wordpress sounds much better as a name for a literary blog of someone in the literary business. It appears to be very linear and that is a good thing.

There are pros and cons to both sides, equally.

I think people, as a general rule, dislike change. (I'm not in the general mindset, but I have had people go ballistic when I've tried to make changes in other aspects of life... Ya know?)

Linking appears to be easier for the comment section.

But I don't like the current "BLAND" feel of the log. If you were to spice it up over at WordPress, I think it would be just fine.

It's up to you Miss Snark. If you like the change, go for it.

Either way, as long as you're dishing out the information - I'll come and pay my respects.

You're hilarious, inventive - and if you were/are anything like you are in your blog, in real life, you would rank as one of my friends.

I demand a lot of qualities in a person in order for me to appreciate them: Quirky, intelligent, perceptive, humorous, honest and blatant disregard for bull crapola.

You hit those qualities, within your blog to the "T".

Which is why a lot of us take the time to read your blog in the first place and not just because we "hope" you'll agree to read our work... But because you offer a moment of human"ness" to a world that seems so untouchable.

So - thanks - and whatever way you choose, I'll be an ardent fan... along with a lot of others.

Lady M

Caitlin said...

Miss Snark, your devoted fans will follow you wherever you go.

kitty said...

I started a blog at WordPress, just fer fun, and I'm not impressed.
Blogger is very easy, allows you to upload pictures from your computer, allows you to preview your posts first, choose the fonts and size and color.
Blogger gives you access to your template, which allowed me to personalize the design myself (without hiring a web design
person).
This is just a partial list off the top of my head, things that are important to me.
This business about links ... I post a LOT more links than Miss Snark and I have no problem.
I want to delete my WordPress blog but I can't find where I do that.

You'll have to decide what you need, Miss Snark.

SherryD said...

I'll follow you anywhere. Must get my daily shot of snarkahol.

Vernieda said...

I think people will follow you wherever you go.

However, I love WordPress. The categories are wonderful. But I'm biased because I never liked Blogger and have used WordPress for a very, very long time. Whatever makes your life easier.

James Goodman said...
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James Goodman said...

I prefer Blogger. WordPress has too many quirky anomalies.

$.02, Status: Added.

Kirsten said...

kitty, I used Wordpress, and I can do all those things . . .

Annie said...

As long as I know where to find you, I don't care where you choose to call home.

Bernita said...

I like Blogger.

kathie said...

I like it...how about some snarky graphics of you and KY???

December Quinn said...

How many blogs do I have to have so I can comment with a link to my blog, not just anonymous or just my name? :-)


A friend of mine uses WordPress, so I'm somewhat familiar with it but in helping her set stuff up for hers I found their FAQ is not so informative, and they don't have as many templates.

If you go, I'll follow...blog #4 for December...

I've not noticed WordPress being out much, though, and it seems Blogger often has issues. Remember last month, it was out for a whole day? So that's a distinct advantage.

:-)

Anonymous said...

If you do switch (which most seem to think is a good idea), I'd keep this blog active for about three months with a notice about the new address, provide a prominent link to your new address with a request to those who link to you to renew their link information.

Regarding rankings, I know part of the algorithm that calculates site popularity is based on other sites linking to your site, so if rank is important to you, then that's another consideration. It could take quite a while for your new site to achieve the rank this one has.

Anonymous said...

I haven't read any other Wordpress blogs so cannot compare it to Blogger.
My 2c is that as long as the snarchives are transferable then go for it.

Dan said...

My vote is for WordPress...but my opinion may be a bit biased, as my blog, Adrift at Sea, is powered by WordPress.

Sha'el, Princess of Pixies said...

I've looked at the sample site more than once. I think the font is too small. The posts are hard to read. I would miss the preview function. The blogspot version is easier to read.

Dave Kuzminski said...

This is a case where the interface must be comfortable with the content creator. Folks who visit Miss Snark are obviously pleased for the most part with the content, so many will feel comfortable with what you choose after a brief familiarity cruise should you decide to move.

Yes, there may be a dip in visitation as the word slowly gets out to the public that the site has moved, should you decide to move. However, my experience in moving P&E on two occasions in the past nine years appears to validate my observation that if you have quality content, the public will follow. That's why I have to come down in favor of whatever site provides you with the most tools, greatest convenience, and least aggravation.

Anonymous said...

I much prefer the clean look of the WordPress template and layout. Blogger is messy in comparison.

Anonymous said...

Whither thou goest, we will follow...
C.

lady t said...

If you want to move,that's cool but DON'T go to LiveJournal,please! The further anyone stays away from there,the better.

Anonymous said...

I agree about Live Journal! Blech!!

Corn Dog said...

Eblogger is owned by Google. Google is submitting your blog to its search engine and I suspect you are getting the bulk of your new readership from writers doing Google searches. Once people have found you, they are addicted, of course, and will follow you anywhere. But the point being, if you switch to Wordpress, do they do any search engine submission? If not, you may experience a slippage in your ever growing audience.

PaulaO said...

Miss Snark:

WordPress is an excellent method of blogging and it's also good for content management (aka the rest of the site). I have 6 sites and all but one are WP based. (the one is run by alleged committee, oy) The WP community is freakin' fantastic and the Codex is a great resource.

Some webhosts now have WordPress as a 'one-click' install option. I highly recommend Dreamhost. They have plans as low as $8 a month.

The best thing about WordPress is it's customization abilities. As for spam, SpamKarma2 stops 100% of that crap at my site. There are other plugins too, of course, such as one for keywords that make searching even better.

PaulaO

PS Joella, my Service Dog, sends a woof to Killer Yapp. She's jealous she doesn't have any fancy clothes.

Mama Rose said...

Wordpress is fine. I read several blogs by people using it. But, please, don't go with Live Journal. I hate their "friending" thing that pretty much forces you to get a live journal in order to post comments.

Linda

Anonymous said...

If the comments use word verification login, I hope they can do better than "mzctytsgwhqtfgstycyetqz."

Susan said...

Take a look at typepad.com, Miss Snark. I moved there from blogger last year and have never regretted it.

susan

Anonymous said...

Both have pros and cons, I personally prefer the look and feel of Blogger. Wordpress is boring. Sort of the difference between Internet Explorer and Firefox. Firefox just doesn't measure up.

Anonymous said...

You mean Firefox doesn't measure up to IE in the number of popups IE gives you, right? Or in IE's vulnerability to spyware?

Voter Mom said...

mama rose, you can commet on LJ without an LJ account, using OpenID

http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=231

december quinn, that might solve your "how many blog" question:
http://www.openid.net/

Christopher said...

I've been playing around with WordPress all day, and I can't say that I'm very impressed.

The only feature they offer that Blogger doesn't that's of interest to me is the ability to password protect certain posts or pages. But if you host on your own website, chances are you can get around that.

I thought the additional pages under the main blog thing was a great idea, until I found out that the "pages" are really only a single blog post that's placed separately from the rest of your blog.

I'd stick with Blogger, but that's me. You'll do what's best for you.

Ballpoint Wren said...

Christopher, the "pages" function is useful for making blog sections that live outside the chronology of the blog, with different formatting (if you like) from regular blog posts.

I use the WordPress blog pages for "About," "Archives," "Contact" and other information I want to keep easily available to my readers.

Anonymous said...

The pages feature is easy enough to do in Blogger. Just put a secton called "pages" and put your page links there. Done. Easy access for readers.

Firefox isn't as user-friendly as IE. Not sure about the spyware defenses, but I can't post in Blogger using Firefox, it's too unstable and frequently falls off line. Whereas as soon as I switch over to IE, everything's fine. I've heard many people complain about Firefox for one reason or another.

December Quinn said...

Doh! Thanks, Christopher, I even knew about OpenID but just wasn't thinking.


BTW, LJ does offer an anonymous comment feature, too. But I hate the way they "thread" comments, which is why I just keep my lj for personal use (though I do use deadjournal for my blog on my website).

Anonymous said...

I have found IE more forgiving of sites who have some sloppy code. Mozilla (Firefox) is not nearly so nice about it. As so many people will throw sites together, me included, with greater or lesser adherence to 'good code', it seems IE will work in many spots Firefox won't.

I tried the latest release and removed it from my system despite some really neat features it has. Aside from it's less forgiving nature, Firefox bombed on me several times a day and thee Google tool bar is the only plug in I used. The tool bar runs just fine on IE.

If you want to read some real horror stories, just go to Mozilla's Firefox support site at http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=38 (if the end of the link is truncated, the part after org/ is viewforum.php?f=38).

Besides, IE is coming out with Tabs starting with release 7.

Nora McCrea said...

I don't know about Wordpress but the online journal I contribute to, www.2gq.org , uses Typepad and I've had great luck posting with it. The link function is extremely user-friendly.

Jean said...

I wouldn't worry about the bland appearance of the temporary WordPress link. That's WordPress' default theme. I imagine Miss Snark would modify it if she swapped over.

Pixel Faerie said...

I would be VERY careful using WordPress. I used it on my own website, got hacked something terrible. I am afraid to use it again.

Lynn Raye Harris said...

To Anonymous: I already have tabs on my IE. Don't ask me how hubby did it, but he found it somewhere on the web. I've been using it for months now and love it.

Dear Miss Snark, I hate change. But if you go, I will follow. :) I will update and relink. I like the idea of categorizing posts. I sometimes consider switching too, but there's that whole change thing again....

Brady Westwater said...

Google is God. Do not offend the Gods.

J Malcolm said...

Glad to hear you might be moving to wordpress instead of blogcharm. One of my favorite blogs moved to blogs moved to blogcharm today and now I can read it anymore. I wrote a huge blog on the prois and cons of blogcharm, but word press looks good