9.11.2006

Sock Puppets

"Surely you made that up!"


Back in the early days of the blog I'd surf around the net to see what people were saying about me. One of the recurring themes I found both hilarious and strange was "she comments on her own blog anonymously" and "she makes up letters". I wondered what kind of total nitwit would do that, let alone what double nitwit would think I had to make up anything.

Wellllllllllll, come to find out there's a term, sock puppet, for aliases people use who comment on their own blogs, or defend themselves on their own blogs. One of the bloggers affiliated with The New Republic just got canned for it, and there have been others.

Now, I don't know what kind of readers those people have but I have a goat, a princess, Bunions, roller derby queens and people who think ducks can talk. With readers like that, sock puppets are pale imitations of interesting.

I may edit the letters I post for focus (ie one topic at a time, effusive compliments appreciated but removed)

I delete some comments posted to the comment trail.


Comments I make are posted as Miss Snark.


Comments made by Killer Yapp are posted as Killer Yapp.

Questions answered on the blog come from ya'll, either as email or comments.

Links are stolen, as is the poetry.

Everything else is mine.

31 comments:

Susan Helene Gottfried said...

"Everything else is mine" -- Drat. I was hoping you'd cede ownership of those hot Jimmy Choos you picked up over the weekend.

Jean said...

You also have a polar bear lurking who lets her human post comments periodically.

Dave said...

go to YAHOO news, scroll to the bottom and read the "odd news."

I sometimes copy those stories and send them to relatives and a few others (who understand my particular form of mental illness).

I always begin those e-mails "Now I can't make this up you know" because they are so outrageous.

And believe it or not, I stole the line (now I can't...) from Anna Russell who did a comedy act sonsisting or telling the audience the story behind "The Ring of the Nibelungen" by Richard Wagner. . In the middle of Gotterdammerung, she says "now I can't make this up, you know" and the audience laughs for five minutes. Why because you can't make all that opera stuff up.

McSwilligans said...

That's HILARIOUS!

Renee said...

People use aliases to defend themselves on their own blogs? Come on people. Grow a pair.

And by the way, Miss Snark, you rock.

M. G. Tarquini said...

Can't speak for the goat, the princess, the roller derby queens, or those people who think ducks can talk, but can state, without equivocation, that none of them Bunion Gals is Miss Snark.

Miss Snark is way taller.

And she talks a whole lot gooder, too.

delilah said...

Just goes to show: life is stranger than fiction AND, nothing is stranger than snarklings!!

xoxo,

Delilah

PS I know I'm real 'cause it hurts when I step on a bee.

Anonymous said...

Hmm. Why would you post anonyomously? Isn't Miss Snark a fake name, anyway? Like, what consequences would there be for anonymously posting instead of using the name you go by on the blog so that you can remain anonymous?

Morons.

Bill E. Goat said...

Bill E. Goat: Miss Snark mentioned me again? She did?! So, she likes Paranormal-Goat Romance Fantasy?

Me: Yes, she mentioned you. No, she doesn't "do" fantasy.

Bill E.: Does she have an AIM name? Can I IM her?

Me: No, you can't.

Bill E.: You're just trying to keep me from being published before you are.

Me: Stop pouting, Bill. If she has an AIM name, I don't know it. Besides, you don't look a thing like that Clooney fella.

Bill E: Noooo, I don't. I wonder if he's jealous?

Corn Dog said...

I have learned a new term, "sock puppet." I am going to my blog forthwith and sock puppet all over it. Maybe I will get in a sock puppet fight. Maybe a sock puppet will flag my blog. I see all sorts of possibilities. Gadzooks...

Anonymous said...

Where would anyone have the time to do all this with sock puppets?
I mean, I know you walk on water already, but that's just impossible.

Hey, are you writing all the crapometer submissions too?
I am soooo impressed.

Dave said...

I dug this out of the New York Times. It's to long to post it all and the UEL requires a membership (no money, just login)...

"The New Republic is finally back in the news, although not entirely for its journalism. Last week, Mr. Foer suspended a senior editor, Lee Siegel, for insinuating himself anonymously into his blog on the magazine’s site, using a so-called sock puppet to attack his opponents and lick his own face — he described himself as “brave” and “brilliant” — under the pen name “Sprezzatura.”"
##end of quote##

It isn't ethical to praise yourself anonymously.

xiqay said...

I am obviously too honest. Until I read this, the thought that a blog owner would comment anonymously or under an alias on their own blog never occurred to me.

Miss Snark, your blog etiquette is obvious to me, and appreciated. (And I believe you've clued us in on this at times, in small asides.)

Sock puppet? Bet Killer Yapp would have a good time with that.

Anonymous said...

Hmm. Why would you post anonyomously? Isn't Miss Snark a fake name, anyway? Like, what consequences would there be for anonymously posting instead of using the name you go by on the blog so that you can remain anonymous?
For one, she'd be covered in more unwanted queries than she could store and she could get a visit from disgrunted parents from children whose work Miss Snark snarked. No, being anonymous is a good think for dear Snarky.

Unfortunately the term sockpuppet was not new to me. I frequent Wikipedia and sometimes vandals don't know when to give up...

River Falls said...

"Sock puppet." I learn something from this blog every day.

How did Lee Siegel get caught?

Sock Puppet said...

Pale? Whatdya mean pale? I'll have you know I'm 100% argyle, Missy!

barbjn said...

xiqay said,
"Until I read this, the thought that a blog owner would comment anonymously or under an alias on their own blog never occurred to me."

Me neither.

barbjn

Anonymous said...

Bill E. Goat said...
Bill E. Goat: Miss Snark mentioned me again? She did?! So, she likes Paranormal-Goat Romance Fantasy?

Me: Yes, she mentioned you. No, she doesn't "do" fantasy.


Eh? Bill E. Goat said it, ergo Bill E. Goat is "Me"... So Bill E. Goat is talking to himself? A sock puppet's sock puppet??

Termagant 2 said...

My husband doesn't even bother with the sock. His fun creations are naked puppets, formed by anatomically improbable contortions of his own hand...

He doesn't bother going on the 'net with them, though.

T2

Ray Goldensundrop said...

Makes sense to use sock puppets on a blog that doesn't get much traffic, ergo not much conflict. Blogs are stories too, but being creative with fictional characters isn't needed here.

That's because this is a powerful ciber magnet, and once touched, many of us become little magnets drawing in more participants. Miss Snark needs sock puppets like rock stars need relatives in the audience.

I'm Ray Goldensundrop, and I approve of this message.

Sha'el, Princess of Pixies said...

Dear Mr. (gotta be a Mr., and we all know why) Anon.

So I didn't take my medications, and I posted under the wrong name! Sheesh. Picky, picky, picky!

Besides, Bill may try to chew your socks. (Did you know goats don't have upper teeth in the front?) But William Edward Goat III isn't a sock of any sort.

The "Me" was Me, and don't you forget it bub!

Anonymous said...

That Bill E. Goat fella is so cute. baaaaahhhh. Any cute French Alpines out there? baaaaaah I bet I could arrange an introduction to that wonderful, creative, handsome, brave, handsome, sexy guy. Just let me know. baaaaaah, and I'll do my best for you.

And I am handsomer than that Looney Clooney any day ooo oh um and so is Bill E. Goat. I mean.

Chumplet said...

Google Ed The Sock. He's gross.

Anonymous said...

What do you mean: "effusive compliments are removed"?

Jessica said...

Even if Miss Snark did make up the emails she responds to. Who cares? I'm still learning, and in a more interesting way than giving me a boring list of what not to do in a query. As for defending herself annon, that seems the complete opposite of Miss Snark. She seems more like "I don't care what you think about me" person.

Kim said...

I will never look at sock puppets quite the same again - too many visuals running through my head about rumbling socks and ravenous goats...

And there goes another keyboard... *sigh*

Stargazer said...

I overheard a conversation about making up positive feedback on E-bay to boost sales, so it's possible that perhaps some bloggists, em, bloggers(?)do the same.

Though, anyone who's actually read your "warts 'n all blog", Miss Snark, would realise you just wouldn't do that.

Anonymous said...

I knew about sockpuppets because I occasionally lurk on the Bewares and Background Checks forum at Absolute Write. Sockpuppet Central. Any time someone asks about a dodgy agent or publisher, here's what happens:

a) the regulars do a little digging and find out some unsavoury stuff

b) the publisher or agent in question shows up to defend himself (levels of coherence and sanity vary)

c) four or five brand-new IDs, who coincidentally have the exact same posting style as the dodgy agent or publisher, show up to tell everyone how absolutely wonderful this agent or publisher is and how DARE they question such a genius

If you want to see sockpuppets in action, check it out. It's hysterical.

Mags said...

Ugh. The two banning offenses on my blog are spamming and sockpuppeting. I hate it when they pick fights with themselves.

(And why do they do it? Because they are immature, and want to express a stupid and/or reactionary opinion and not be called upon to defend it.)

Sock puppets, in my not so humble opinion, should be slowly unraveled as they scream with agony. And then the yarn should be cut up into tiny tiny pieces!!!!

(Sorry, have issues.)

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't we have to call them "Snark Puppets"?

Not a Goat said...

I don't know. It depends. If someone has an anonymous blog and posts about something in their real life then I can see if their "real life identity" posts in the comments to clarify something.

I would also think that one could use the comments to post things you don't want attributed to you. Yes, that's cowardly, but some fights aren't worth the battle, but the information could still help others.

And no, my blog has nothing to do with writing and I've never posted to myself.

Although, talking with my better half does often feel like I'm doing that.